Elizabeth Northcutt

Forensic firearms examiner

3 hours 6 minutes in.

She has been employed for 8 years. Explains cartridge casing. Cartridge is ejected when fired by semi-automatic gun. Explains how. Revolver does not automatically eject casing. Finding a casing suggests a semi-automatic.

Shows Exh 218. Has casing. She examined it, has a head-stamp WIN 25 Auto. Winchester. Auto is name of the cartridge, indicates it is designed to be fired from 0.25 auto.
Entered into national database, no match.

Exh. 244, the bullet.


JM: Were you able to determine the caliber?
EN: Measured base diameter, weight, consistent with 0.25 auto bullet.
JM: How much does a 0.25 bullet weight?
EN: Typically 50 grains.
JM: How much did this bullet weight?
EN: 44.8
EN: Bullets can be damaged when fired, can lose weight that way.
EN: 44.8 to 50 grains not a big discrepancy.
EN: There were rifling impressions on the bullet ( made by the entire barrel ).
EN: This one had 6-right rifling.

3:15:50 Back to the casing. 1LB.

3:16:55 Cross exam by JW

EN: Casing can match different guns
EN: Casings can be kicked around

3:17:45 Redirect

JM: Is it a magical casing?
EN: No (JW:Objection argumentative,sustained)
JM: Is there anything unusual about this 0.25 caliber casing?
EN: No
JM: Shows Exh. 114, casing on edge of pool of blood.
JM: Does top of casing have blood on it?
EN: No ( JW:Objection, speculation,overruled )
JM: Any reddish substance consistent with blood on top of it?
EN: No.
JM: Is reddish substance above it or underneath it?
EN: Underneath
No jury qustions.